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Written by Duane Long   
Tuesday, 19 January 2010 14:18
Recruiting is so much about what ifs. At the quarterback position we are chock full of what ifs. It starts with Pryor. What if he continues his development and becomes the player he was projected to be, an early entry NFL player? Whether he improves that much is a what if. That he is gone in two years is fact. We need to start preparing right now. I don't know about you but what I saw from Bauserman does not give me a great deal of confidence. He is showing a lack of reps. To get Pryor to where he is right now has taken so many reps from Joe as to stunt his development. We know Guiton is as raw as raw can be. The lack of reps is likely hurting him more than Bauserman. Quarterback is the single hardest position in all of sports to master. The more time a quarterback has under center, the better. That is what makes me nervous about Taylor Graham. I love what I saw from him in film. I love that so many quarterback gurus offered him. I think that is a big deal. You know they had a hand in decision making on offering those quarterbacks they developed. Lets keep in mind that after a year off he came back in camps and combines to get those offers from those quarterback gurus, and he lost that year earlier in his development. But the better part of two years off gives me pause. That bring me to the stellar class of 2011 quarterbacks.

A recent video of Braxton Miller as a junior brought into focus once again just how good he is. Both he and Jones are five star quarterbacks. I would take Jones no matter what. I have had a few e-mails about Jones accuracy. He has completed right around 64% of his passes. He has better than a 3-1 touchdown to interception ratio.I would take Stoudt too. There are some positions that are so important that you always take the opportunity to upgrade them. Quarterback is right at the top of that list. I think quarterback is that important and I think Stoudt is that good. Here is the ScoutingOhio.com video of Stoudt: http://scoutingohio.com/index.php/view-profile.html?task=userProfile&user=2622&name=Cole1818  Tell me that is not a big time kid. He has size and arm strength. He moves very well. Any other year he would be the most talked about QB in the class. The only thing about him that surprises me is that his only offer is Cincinnati.

I want to be clear. Yes, I am saying take three quarterbacks in one class if they are good enough. Stack talent at key positions if you have the opportunity. In the case of this team we have to look at the fact that all three will be arriving the same year that Pryor and Bauserman are seniors. We have a couple of pretty raw guys in Guiton and Graham behind them. Guys that need some work just to get to the point where we say yes, we have us a quarterback. That is the point where start their development. At this point they are more of an unknown commodity than most freshmen. We need to add as many talents as possible to the mix. We recently had a Heisman Trophy quarterback. We are looking at the emergence of another star caliber player at the position. Lets keep that going. Other schools have stacked talent like this. Look at USC. Look where they have been recently. There is an NFL starter who was a backup at USC. That is just ridiculous. Texas has had back to back outstanding quarterback play. We have to recognize the importance of the position in the modern game. Be outstanding at quarterback and you are always a threat to win any game.

I understand the concern of tying up three scholarships at a position where only one plays. We are not keeping them. Might not keep more than one. Quarterbacks transfer at a pretty high rate because only one plays the vast majority of the time. Think about our own history of keeping quarterbacks. Does any other position come close as far as transfer rates are concerned? Be straight with them. You come in here with a couple of other guys. One of you will step up and get the bulk of the reps and be next in line. The others can chose to stay and reap the benefits of Buckeye Nation like Justin Zwick did, and like it appears Joe Bauserman intends to do, or you can transfer. We promise you an equal shot at the spot. Best man wins.

There would only be two things that would dissuade me from this. One, do I have enough practice reps to really get a look at all three, and two, am I really going to have to short myself at another position to do it? A yes to either would force me to just take the two, but I would absolutely take two. We have an opportunity to upgrade the talent at the most important position on the field. That is something we don't get the chance to do around here. Continuing the recent spate of success could change that.


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QB Recruiting
written by flbuckeyebob, January 19, 2010
I agree with you 100%. I have been in a few 'disagreements' on various sites on this very point and this position is so important that to take all 3 if they all wish to come is mandatory. Some may end up at other positions (DB for example), some may end up transferring, some may develop so much that they end up passing a 'can't miss' (Troy, for example), some may red shirt, some may stay and remain a back up, but we MUST find the one to be the next QB.
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written by Playmea, January 19, 2010
Duane, I hear ya. And you know that I disagree.

So lets put it this way, there are really only two spots where we can take the hit if we pull such a move. RB (and thats because we've already over-recruited in this position) and LB (simply because we've just got so much talent). We can't afford the gap in depth at any other spot. Maybe safety because we have numbers to fill in. But we don't have the talent at Safety. I guess we could go without another WR.

My concern Duane, is the trend in this staff would be to take the hit on the OL and the DL. Two places where we absolutely CAN NOT take a hit depth wise.

So if you could promise me that the staff wouldn't take the hit in those areas I may be cool with such a notion. But I know you couldn't make that promise. JT wouldn't make that promise. And I know you Duane. The idea of another season of only taking one OL (maybe even zero) can be detrimental. We'll have 5 QB's on our roster going into 2010. Wouldn't you rather shore up the depth on the OL (specifically Tackle) than bring in 3 QB's?

I say take one of the three unless someone is will to move to another position. I realize that QB's will likely transfer. But by then the gap in depth will have already surfaced. And the lack of distribution of reps among the other QB's (because of the log-jam) will have also played a role in the lack of development for the remaining QB's on the roster. All in the name of upgrading a position at "whatever the cost".

Eventually, the staff is going to have to take responsibility for the people they have already recruited.
2011 Recruiting
written by Joevans, January 19, 2010
I think they should concentrate on finishing up strong on 2010 first. Wiffing on so many targets is discourging.
I'm with Playmea
written by JarheadBuck, January 19, 2010
I understand your reasoning Duane, but unless the staff says "hey, we're passing on RBs, WRs and taking 1 less LB in '11" (which won't happen) we simple can't afford the schollies. 8 Schollie QBs (TP, Bauserman, Guiton, Graham, Reed, Miller, Jones and Stoudt) is just too many, even if we expect some of them to bolt.

The good news is that we are not going to need to make a decision. If those 3 are as good as you say and we hope, then at least one of the 3 will not be willing to wade into a QB pool that deep. So even if all 3 are offered, I seriously doubt we land 3 top-tier QBs.

I say we get Miller in the barn and take the better of Jones and Stoudt. Then we use that 3rd schollie on an extra OL.
Opinion
written by punt on second down, January 19, 2010
I would take all three also, but Im not sure that will happen. In the NCAA football video game, (dynasty mode of course) this would happen, but Im not so sure in real life Tress would do this. At USC it would happen, because thats the only place I have seen shenanigans like this occur (see the year they brought in the top 4 or 5 rbs in the country).


Finally, I agree with Joevans, lets worry about 2010 for the next couple of weeks. This current class reminds me of our 2003 class on paper. But, we shall see how it turns out.

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