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Written by Duane Long   
Thursday, 08 October 2009 12:49

It seems to be raining 2011 rankings. Both Bucknuts and Rivals put out 2011 rankings in the last 24 hours. I nearly made it a trifecta. I was re-ordering my 2011 list and nearly posted it. I was doing more research and thinking I would post it when I saw the Buknuts list come up. I decided to postpone because it would have seemed like I was trying to one up them. That is family over there. You don't do that to family. This morning I wake up and see Rivals put up a list.I want to talk about some players without going into a top 10 or 15 or whatever.

The first kid I want to talk about is Shane Wynn. There has been a lot of talk about his size. Rivals got a tape measure and a scale on him at a combine this past summer. He is 5-6 and 150 lbs. I know fans are going to look at that film, very impressive indeed, and say he is so fast and elusive. Just line him up in the slot and corners cannot get their hands on him. That is too simplistic. They still can get a hand on him. It is not as easy as a split end who is standing right on the line of scrimmage but they can still get their hands on him. Beyond that he is not going to win any battles for balls against defenders. There is a difference between interference and fighting for the ball. There is going to be contact. I don't see a kid that size winning those battles. His game is always dependent on getting him into space. Two things make the offer from the Buckeyes something I have gotten right with. One, I am coming around to the idea of offering a kick returner a scholarship. I have never been a fan. They don't touch the ball often enough. The NFL brings in kick returners just to be kick returners but they don't pay them like a full time receiver. All scholarship money is the same. Watching Ray Small has made me re-think this idea. He has never returned as many kicks for touchdowns or big yardage as Ted Ginn but I bet he has set us up with better field position more times than Ginn. He is always going forward. If a punt returner can return a kick 10 yards consistently he is going to have a major impact on his team. That and watching Trindon Holliday for LSU. He is not having that great an impact on the stat sheet. Fans are so excited about a kid that fast but Holliday is a senior and has not touched the ball 100 times. He has 4 touchdowns. He has only caught 5 passes in his career. Wynn is different. I suspect Holliday is just fast. Wynn can catch the ball, and he can run patterns. Returning kicks, being the fourth receiver and maybe taking a handoff once in while with his game breaking ability, I don't know if I would do it but I am not going to call it a reach.

I have become a fan of Colerain big back Trayion Durham. He is listed as a fullback because of his size and the fact that he plays fullback in high school but I saw a recent game. I think it was Elder. He impressed me. Big, strong, great balance and runs with great determination. He reminds me of Raymont Harris.He has a listed 4.56. I am not sure about that. If he is under 4.6 next year in the athlete season he is going to turn some heads.

Glenville has been good to the Buckeye program so fans tend to get excited about any top Glenville prospect. I look at two players who everyone reading this has heard about, Andre Sturdivant and Aundre Walker. They both are on the opposite end of the same problem. That problem is size. Walker is so big that he might be too big. He is not explosive coming off the ball. This staff has avoided overweight kids like the plague. Sturdivant is not athletic enough to play anywhere but the middle. He is tight in the hips and does not impress me in space. I know the name Brian Rolle is going to come up as an undersized middle linebacker. He is no Brian Rolle. He does not have the speed of Rolle. Cordale Jones has not impressed me as a quarterback but I really like the athlete. He could play just about any skill position except quarterback.

We may see a decent offensive line class. I don't want to put the names out until later in the year after we see some more tape but there could be a handful. At least one may not be a high school offensive lineman.

Buckeye fans are going to hear about Florida 2011 quarterback Teddy Bridgewater. Is he better than Braxton Miller? Yes. He is better. He is bigger. He is even more athletic. His arm is just as strong. I give Miller the edge in mechanics. Both are five-star kids, national top five kids next year. The big question is who would I offer if I could only take one, but that one would commit as soon as I offered him, it would still be Miller. Bridgewater is so focused on going to the Show that he is thinking he wants to play another position, likely wide receiver, to increase his odds of making that happen.

 



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written by KasinoRoyale, October 08, 2009
D, If I were Tressel I would tell Bridgewater he is welcome to tOSU in whatever position makes him happy. Kids so dynamic it really doesn't matter where he lines up good things are going to happen. I would try him everywhere he wanted and see which one he looked the best in. Maybe sweeten the deal with letting him know he could run Ginn's old WR/QB package at times.
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written by KasinoRoyale, October 08, 2009
Walker is a massive beast. I'm not sure what his mom put in the babyfood but the kid is BIG. The concern you have D is very valid. Walker doesn't dominate the way he should. There should be small bodies laying on the ground everytime the ball is snapped but there isn't. Look at the Iggy game. Glenvilles line had them beat in poundage by at least 40 or 50 per man, yet Iggy's line still managed to get penetration. I think the main problem is he could stand to lose 20 to 25 lbs which would help his burst, feet movement and stamina.

That said I want him down at tOSU. You can't find that frame often and he has the potential to be a good one. I think being on a good healthy meal plan along with tOSU's trainers on him would help him ten fold.
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written by Ron Krumm, October 08, 2009
Spent most of the night watching Bridgewater vs. Miami Central on ESPN2. To start off, there isn't an offensive lineman on either team that is worth the shit it would take to bury them. Besides that, Bridgewater showed good quickness, a strong arm. He completed a short touchdown pass running one way and throwing across his body. Looked good on TV, but I would bet it got intercepted in college. The second thing, Miami Central is SUPPOSEDLY the number 7 team in the country. They had more yardage in penalties than they had offense. One of the worst played games I have seen in over 40 years. I would question recruiting anyone on either team until they can show some discipline.
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written by Jim S, October 09, 2009
I can't find the 2011 rankings on rivals...
Quarterback Needs
written by hoyabuckeye, October 09, 2009
Are you worried about Graham being injured and unable to play for the second straight season? Seems to me that the last two years of high school are very instrumental for quarterback development - especially considering he wouldn't have the opportunity to start until likely is redshirt sophomore year. That's four years with almost no live playing experience.

Does the staff take another 2010 quarterback? Do they just rely on taking, hopefully, Braxton Miller in 2011? Will Cole Stoudt warrant an offer as well?
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written by alfey45, October 12, 2009
It's not national rival rankings. Brian Snow just put out his top 10 prospects and some other worth mentioning. Differing opinions on the Glenville kids by Brian and scouting ohio but pretty much the same opinion on the Millers, Hayes, DePriest, Grant, and Rock. Those 6 are the mainstays and a lot of differing opinions on the rest of the top players. Gonna be very interesting to see who gets OSU offers and would you bet against any of the Glenville kids. Snow believes that Sturdivant will eventually move down to de.
Oline
written by Da Truth , October 15, 2009
"At least one may not be a high school offensive lineman."

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