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Written by Duane Long   
Wednesday, 21 October 2009 11:38

I have looked at the class of 2010 targets from the point of view of who are the most talented and who I want to see here. I have not addressed it from the point of view of need. That is because there are so few to speak of. No need for linebackers, running backs or receivers. We have more weakside ends than we can use. The same with fullbacks.We are solid in depth at corner. We have a quarterback in this really down quarterback class so even if the staff desired another there are no targets out there. The staff is already courting 2011 kids. We need tight ends but the staff is looking to next year for a tight end. No offers out there for 2010 kids but at least one, Ben Koyack from Pa, for a 2011 kid. I believe Baldwin fills that role in this class anyway.


1 - Seantrell Henderson - OL. I am trying not to get excited about him but the buzz is this will come down to Ohio State and USC. One thing I have heard is that Henderson is being told that he can come in here and start at left tackle. I try to avoid rumors but this one has such a solid foundation that it makes sense. We all saw how much Mike Adams is struggling. He is an immense talent. He is so far behind at this point with the loss of reps from injury an d suspension. Halfway through his sophmore year he looks more like a player halfway through his first year. He got suckered all game by Purdue lining up a player inside the end and tackle and faking the blitz. The one good thing about Bollmans small group philosophy is the staff can look a talent like Henderson in the eye and tell him he can be in the mix as soon as he arrives on campus, and not be lying.

NOTE: I am a straight no chaser kinda guy. I don't pull punches. Central to that is throwing the punch at the right guy. Saturday I said Andy Miller got beat by Kerrigan too. He did not play. That was Cordle out there. I saw a white guy lined up at left tackle. I did not see his number and assumed it was Miller. My apologises to Miller.

2 - Josh Shaw - DB. I call him a DB because he can play anywhere in the secondary. I like our corner depth but it is nice to have a talent such as Shaw who can play both. Offensive line depth has been a concern of mine for some time. I think I might actually rate safety as more of a concern. When Anderson Russell got benched all my fears about the position came to fruition. We completely revamp the back 7 because of that one move because nobody was ready to step in? Are you kidding me??? Not even the much ballyhooed Ohrian Johnson was worthy of anything but back-up reps. We need the caliber of talent who can come in here and play next September.

3 - LaMarcus Joyner - DB. Another elite talent and versatile enough to play either safety position. He is so competitive. Just look at the way he plays the game. The way Florida State is playing plus Bowden hanging on by a thread puts him into the Buckeye lean category. I have not heard anything. I am just saying that a kid who wants to win as badly as Joyner and one who is being as level headed at Joyner has been about this I question whether he is going to put himself into an unstable coaching situation where he is going to lose more games than he can stomach, no matter how close to home it is.

4 - Sharif Floyd - DT. You probably thought you would never see him on a list of mine. The difference is he has now scheduled a visit. That and the fact that Heyward could leave. That is going to weaken one position or the other. Heyward is a strong side end but could help at DT. With him gone we are looking at less than ideal situation at DT and a really shaky situation at strong side end. Floyd is elite. He does not help us at SSDE if Heyward leaves but he shores up the DT situation. There are never too many DTs anyway.

5 - Matt James - OL - Yes. He is back on the list. No, I have not heard anything. I am putting him back on because he has not committed. I had solid info a couple of months ago that he was going to verbal Notre Dame. He didn't. For the longest time I kept hearing Cincinnati was the leader. Still no verbal. He is a kid that obviously does not like the recruiting process. It has been my experience that kids with that mindset will get it over with as soon as humanly possible if they have a favorite. That tells me we still have a shot and there is no question about the need. He seems to be a humble kid but he is also a superstar talent. He has never sat in his life. Being able to get on the field as early as possible will be banging around in the back of his mind. The Buckeye can offer him that as well as either Notre Dame or Cincinnati.


I know I am going to be asked about Jordan Hicks. He is not on the list because we don't need him. Yes, I said that. We want him. He is the best linebacker I have ever seen in Ohio. He is the nations #1 LB prospect. You always want a player like that especially if he is an instate kid. Look at the roster right now. Etienne Sabino is the most talented kid I have seen come into the program since Big Kat and maybe the best ever. I would say he and Hicks are close but I give the edge to Sabino because I believe he can play any of the three linebacker spots. I don't see Hicks being able to play the middle. Sabino can't get on the field here. Andrew Sweat is the most A.J. Hawk looking linebacker since.....A.J. Hawk. He can't break into the starting lineup either. Storm Klein is the best linebacker nobody is talking about. He did not play much LB in high school so he gets overlooked. He plays mop-up duty here. Dorian Bell was a national top 5 linebacker. He is a little undersized but anywhere else he would have played as a freshman. Jordan Hicks, as good as he is, as much as I want him here, would redshirt. We want him. We want a talent like him badly. This list is about need. We don't need him.



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written by marvin schrager, October 21, 2009
Duane: You are right on. We need all the DT, OL we can get. Safety would not have been such a problem if Clifford didn't flme out. He could have been a star here.
I thought we were looking good for Shaw, but he seems to fall in love with the last school he visits.
Hard to get a good read on him.
2010 NEEDS
written by dbuckeye44, October 21, 2009
No one could argue that we need OLmen and Henderson and James are the best on the list along with Linder who we are most likely not going to get. It is such a shame that we keep feeding the OL players with talent and potential and the Staff can't develop it. I think that we most definitely need talent in the secondary with the primary need being CBs that can play press defense. Joyner and Shaw (and perhaps Anderson) seem to lead the pack. I am still not sure about Joyner and am afraid that Shaw finally decides to go with his friend Riley. We should get Anderson and Bryant. Floyd would be a major get for all the reasons you noted and the fact he is a premier DT and we seldom even get a chance at one of them. Should we get him and have a spot open at the end I would still take Hankins if he can qualify.
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written by H-back, October 21, 2009
If Sabino and Sweat are so talented, why can't they get on the field? Against Purdue, either of these two may have helped if they were indeed worthy of PT. Hawk and Kat were on the field ASAP and it didn't matter who was in front of them. I love Spitler because he waited his turn and I love Hines, but if there are better options, they'd be on the field.

As for James, most of the St. X kids with options take their time before making a choice....it doesn't mean that James likes or dislike the process. He's going to wait until December or later before choosing...I could introduce you to a handful of St. X insiders and they would probably give you 5 different schools when you asked them where Matt will end up. Ashley, Scruggs, Schoenhoft, Muldoon...all guys who recently (past few years) were D-I recruits with more than a few offers who took their time. Massa only committed early because Notre Dame went back on a supposed 'coming' offer and Weis took Hendrix instead....leaving Massa with UC and a bunch of smaller offers...with his injury history, he was smart to commit as soon as he did. James can afford the luxury to wait.
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written by Duane Long, October 21, 2009
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written by H-back, October 21, 2009
If Sabino and Sweat are so talented, why can't they get on the field? Against Purdue, either of these two may have helped if they were indeed worthy of PT. Hawk and Kat were on the field ASAP and it didn't matter who was in front of them. I love Spitler because he waited his turn and I love Hines, but if there are better options, they'd be on the field.

As for James, most of the St. X kids with options take their time before making a choice....it doesn't mean that James likes or dislike the process. He's going to wait until December or later before choosing...I could introduce you to a handful of St. X insiders and they would probably give you 5 different schools when you asked them where Matt will end up. Ashley, Scruggs, Schoenhoft, Muldoon...all guys who recently (past few years) were D-I recruits with more than a few offers who took their time. Massa only committed early because Notre Dame went back on a supposed 'coming' offer and Weis took Hendrix instead....leaving Massa with UC and a bunch of smaller offers...with his injury history, he was smart to commit as soon as he did. James can afford the luxury to wait.



You are going to single out this one game, one in which the scheme was to sit back and let them nickle and dime us to death, and single out Rolle and Spitler? Rolle is having a really great year. Spitler has not been spectacular but has had a solid year. He has done what was asked of him. Another thing to consider is JT is going to give veterans the benefit of the doubt. Sweat in particular has stood out when he has been in there. Big Kat and Hawk did not find stacked depth charts like these kids are looking at.

Read James comments. He is spending no time with the press. Narrowed his list to 3 schools quickly. He ain't having any fun.
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written by Poe McKnoe, October 21, 2009
Amen, Hopefully Seantrel Henderson can afford a private coach.
Recruiting
written by Crazy 8, October 21, 2009
I think the point brought up that is most important is lack of developing once they are in camp and wearing the scarlet and gray. We can develop receivers and corners as well, if not better than anybody. We can put linebackers through pretty well too, but up until the coaching staff finally let these players go after the ball like they let Aj and co. before them, most of them looked good, but not great.We have lacked elite athleticism for the most part at safety most of this decade, and our defensive lineman have been hit and miss. The thing that stands out most is our O-lineman. I dont think Henderson, Norwell, Linder or James is going to make any impact. I think after a few years of great prospects, its obvious Bollman is not a D1 line coach. We can be amazed at Henderson's size and athletic ability all we want, but what the hell were we saying about Boone previously and Adams and Shugarts now?
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written by bucksfan10, October 22, 2009
Duane,

If Hicks is that good, the need may not be there. But don't you take someone with this kind of talent just to keep him away from everybody else?
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written by Duane Long, October 22, 2009
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written by bucksfan10, October 22, 2009
Duane,

If Hicks is that good, the need may not be there. But don't you take someone with this kind of talent just to keep him away from everybody else?


Not enough scholarships to do that these days. I am sure it used to be a strategy. Woody Hayes did it all the time. He used to say, he won't play for me but he will never beat me. A friend who played for coach Hayes heard him say that.
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written by Loganbuck, October 22, 2009
A working theory of mine is that James is going to announce at the US Army AA game for UC. That he has been holding off to give UC some more pub, and a chance for them to say that they beat Ohio State for a recruit that they wanted. I would counter that if you can't recruit the five star tackle in your backyard, whose dad played at UC, while enjoying the best run ever at your school you might as well give up.
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written by Jim S, October 23, 2009
Duane, how much of a drop off do you see going from Joyner/Shaw to Cullen Christian?
Ted Ginn Jr -" He's an embarrassment and a coward"
written by BuckAlum70&75, November 01, 2009
Not to highjack this thread, but this Subject Line is its own thread at the Scout website. Maybe you would like to post your comments in a separate thread. ???

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