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Written by Duane Long   
Wednesday, 02 December 2009 15:21

I am looking at next years lineup. We are all looking at a veteran battle hardened offense and getting excited. We need to take a hard look at the defense. That is where the concern is.

We are not going to miss a beat at linebacker. I think we will be better. The starters logged a lot of reps and Spitler is the only player we lose. His contribution gets overlooked. He has been a solid guy but the talent level at linebacker is off the charts. I think we are solid at corner. Torrence and Chekwa loaded up on game reps. I like the talent waiting in the wings. The bowl practices is where we see these younger players take a leap forward. I am scared out of my mind at safety but where the biggest problem lies is with the bigs on the defensive line.

We are deep as deep can be on the edge. I think Gibson is gone but that just creates an opportunity for the talent we have stacked. Nate Williams would be a starter anywhere else and is the better player as a pure 4-3 defensive end. Jon Newsome looked so good they decided not to redshirt him. No problems there.

The importance of Cam Heyward returning cannot be underestimated. The domino effect of him leaving early impacts the entire defensive line. He has played three positions and played them all well. If he is not there at strong side end we have a depth and experience problem that has to be addressed. It means Mel Fellows is the starter. He will be a very inexperienced sophmore. His backup will be true freshman J.T. Moore. The only real answer is to move Simon out to end. That means a big hole at DT. I have heard good things about how Bellamy is coming along. I was disappointed that as the year wore on we saw less of Goebbel. I don't know if they felt good about the rotation or the staff felt like he was was not ready. Either way his playing time dropped. That is where Floyd comes in. He is a kid who can play at this level right away. There are not many bigs that can do that. Larimore is the real deal. We want a three-man rotation. Larimore and any two of Floyd, Bellamy and Goebbel allows me to settle back in my seat. It is still a very young bunch at the three big line positions but the talent level is something that gives me reason to be cautiously optimistic.

Think about this. What if we get Floyd and Heyward stays? Here is another thing to think about. Robert Rose is odds on to get a medical redshirt. He did not play a lot but when he was in there he was an effective player. I did not think he had it in him to be the player he was last year. Now that is some depth to get excited about.


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written by RipsManifesto, December 02, 2009
I'm curious if Joyner and/or Anderson are immediately in the two-deep at safety here next year (should they both come here), and if so, do either actually start? I know you've been unhappy with safety depth for a while.
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written by edbuck51, December 02, 2009
Heyward's decision will have a huge impact on the optimism for the '10 season. If he returns, you just have to love the potential next year. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

How does Herron, Saine, Hall, Martin, Berry, Hyde and Smith sound on the other side of the ball?

Could be an exciting season, and hopefully gets off on the right foot with a Rose Bowl victory and news that Heyward and Rose will be playing next season.

How about if we get Floyd, and Gibson decides to stay as well, what would that do for ya?
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written by Jim S, December 02, 2009
Duane, you went back and copied and pasted all of my previous comments in your blogs to make up this post didn't you... smilies/wink.gif
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written by Hilltopbass, December 02, 2009
Was Amos a senior, I know he missed most of the season. Wasn't he the starter at corner before he got hurt.
Given the versatility and kind of season he played you have to think he is a top pick at D-line, is there any real hope CH returns.
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written by Pula, December 03, 2009
I would love to get Robert Rose back for another year along with Cameron Hayward. It goes without saying they would be the biggest recruits in the 2010 class if we land them. I would love it if Gibson comes back, but I agree we are deep at the weakside DE.

Safety is the position I am most worried about. Some have Jermale Hines penciled in, but I think Hines is better suited for the star position. Having Tyler Moeller back at least gives up flexibility. I think we almost might have to put Hines back there at least for the experience. You don't wan two newbies starting.

I think we have more talent at CB than at S. What do you think about moving Devon Torrence to the FS position? I think he would make a seamless transition. I feel confident that Dominic Clarke,CJ Barnett, Travis Howard, or Corey Brown will step in. If Coach Tressel is able to land Christian Bryant, Latawn Anderson, and Lemarcus Joyner I would not be surprised to see one of them emerge. They may struggle early in the year, but it cannot be worse than Anderson Russell's constant struggles. If OSU can shore up safety and convince Hayward to return, I think we are looking at THE best defense in the nation. We have to remember that the NC defense was not without holes. Cie Grant and Dustin Fox were question marks coming into the year. AJ Hawk emerged at LBer. Where would that team have been without Chris Gamble's move corner? It turned probably the biggest question mark into one of the strengths of the defense. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts Duane.
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written by iu fan, December 03, 2009
Duane, I'd be willing to wager that the defense will be significantly better than the offense again in 2010. Has the offense shown any flashes of greatness this year? At least in 2004 Troy Smith had a breakout game against Michigan where we could say "wow, that guy's going to be a great quarterback." He knew when to run, when to throw, etc. And that was his fifth game as a starter. Going into 2010, won't the big concerns continue to be the quality of play-calling and quarterback play?
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written by navybuck, December 03, 2009
Rose is NOT going to get another year. The thinking that he is ignores the fact that he has played in 8 plus games in each of his four years at OSU.
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written by RipsManifesto, December 03, 2009
Yeah, I'd love Rob Rose coming back, but I don't see where the logic is coming from.
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written by Tall Cool One, December 03, 2009
Duane I agree with the others, I don't think Rose has a shot for a Med Redshirt. If anybody has as shot at a med redshirt, I think it would be Wilson. But I think he's set to move on as well.
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written by dvo45, December 03, 2009
Thinking out loud:

Assume Heyward returns...

DT: Cam
NT: Larrimore
DT: Goebell????
Leo: Williams

Or maybe something like this...

DT: Cam
NT: Larrimore
DT: williams
Leo: Thomas

Either way...the first group is going to be strong...after that...hopefully some young pups are ready to bite...
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written by buckeye2001, December 04, 2009
i feel your concerns @ safety, but we had 1 starter return at linebacker this year, and we all see how that worked out. i say leave torrence at corner and put cory brown in at 1 safety, and put hines in at the other.
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written by Miko, December 04, 2009
Rob Rose has not filed any paperwork for a medical redshirt and he participated in the senior traditions. Looks no good -

Most file and petition for this much earlier.


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written by jonfrd, December 04, 2009
DT is definitely a concern for 2010, especially if Cam leaves. Larimore and Simon are studs but the rest of the cupboard is fairly green.

On another note, anyone know what the deal is with Shaq Rowell and Whitner's bro? Any chance these guys will be here next year?
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written by Kasino Royale, December 05, 2009
The thinking is Rose could qualify for a medical redshirt because he had two surgeries on his shoulder. So thats where that theory comes from.

From what I've been told the NCAA looks at repeat injuries for medical in a more favorable light than multiple injuries. Hence why Rose may get a look and Wilson wouldn't.
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